Tell Me, What Were Their Names?

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On October 31, 1941, the USS Reuben James was torpedoed by a German U-552 submarine near Iceland. At the time, the Reuben James was part of the Neutrality Patrol that guarded ships making passage between the Americas and the U.K. Within around five minutes, the entire ship went down. Different sources vary, but approximately 115 of the 160 men aboard died.

The Almanac Singers

Around this time, Woody Guthrie was playing with a group called The Almanac Singers, which also included Pete Seeger, Millard Lampell, and Lee Hays. The group had recorded songs about civil rights and unions, and they had previously recorded a song critical of Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt’s peacetime draft.

But in reaction to the sinking of the Reuben James and the attack on Pearl Harbor less than two months later, the Almanac singers released an album in 1942 supporting the U.S. war effort.  One of the songs was about the Reuben James.

Woody Guthrie’s Drafts of “The Sinking of the Reuben James”

When Guthrie began writing “The Sinking of the Reuben James,” his initial plan was to humanize the tragedy by listing all of the victims of the tragedy. His original version included lists of names as well as some details about some of the men: “There’s Harold Hammer Beasley, a first rate man at sea/ From Hinton, West Virginia, he had his first degree.” (Joe Klein, Woody Guthrie: A Life, at 216.)

Guthrie took a draft of his song to a meeting with The Almanac Singers. They agreed he had a great idea for a song, but they wondered if listing all of the names made the song a little boring. Seeger suggested that Guthrie try describing the event in detail while adding a rousing chorus that would get across the same message.

Guthrie went back and reworked the verses, while Seeger and Lampell worked on the chorus, personalizing the song without listing the names by asking the listener: “Tell me, what were their names?/ Did you have a friend on the good Reuben James.” Below is Guthrie’s solo version of the song they wrote.

Note that in the above version he asks “what was their names” instead of using “were” as in other versions as well as in the official Guthrie lyrics.

The Music for “The Sinking of the Reuben James”

Regarding the music for the song, Guthrie set the verses to the tune from “Wildwood Flower” by The Carter Family.

Popularity

“The Sinking of the Reuben James” became one of the Almanac Singers’ best-known songs. But despite the patriotic tone of this song and other ones they released at the time, the Almanac Singers continued to be harassed for their earlier anti-war stance and they disbanded within about a year.

“The Sinking of the Reuben James” was officially listed as being written by “The Almanac Singers.” But in later years Seeger graciously gave credit to Guthrie for both the verses and the chorus.

{Woody at 100 is our continuing series celebrating the 100th Anniversary of the birth of American singer-songwriter Woody Guthrie on July 14, 1912. Check out our other posts on Guthrie and the Woody Guthrie Centennial too. }

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    Tom Joad’s Inspiration

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    In 1940 after John Ford made John Steinbeck’s novel Grapes of Wrath into a popular film, Woody Guthrie was finding some fame while living with various friends in New York. In the biography Woody Guthrie: A Life, Joe Klein explained that as Victor Records worked to produce a set of Guthrie’s Dust Bowl ballads, the company asked Guthrie to write a song that would capitalize on Grapes of Wrath‘s popularity. (p. 163.)

    It was a good fit to have the balladeer who had first-hand experience with the Dust Bowl write a song about a fictional character who experienced it. In the clip below, New York Times film critic A.O. Scott discusses the film.

    Writing “Tom Joad”

    So, Guthrie went to work on his song. One night Guthrie asked his friend the young Pete Seeger where he could get a typewriter to use to compose the song related to the film. Seeger took Guthrie to the lower East Side to see an artist friend with a typewriter.

    Guthrie sat down at the machine with a half gallon of wine and began writing, periodically going to his guitar to test out what he was writing. When Seeger woke up the next morning, he found the song written on the typewriter next to an empty wine bottle and Guthrie passed out on the floor.

    The seventeen-verse song summarized Tom Joad’s story. Despite the length, the record company recorded the entire song on May 3, 1940 in its New Jersey studios.  Then, the record company had to use both sides of a record to get it to fit.

    Guthrie was usually dissatisfied with his songs.  But he was proud of this song, saying, “I think the ballad of the Joads is the best thing I’ve done so far.”

    The Music from “John Hardy”

    Guthrie took the music for “Tom Joad” from an outlaw ballad he had been playing, “John Hardy.” In the clip below, Roscoe Holcomb sings “John Hardy,” where you can hear the music behind Guthrie’s “Tom Joad.”

    Holcomb, who grew up in Daisy, Kentucky, recorded a number of traditional songs in the 1960s after John Cohen and Smithsonian Folkways discovered the authentic voice in the Appalachian Mountains.

    Guthrie’s Lyrics

    While the music of “John Hardy” helped inspire Guthrie to write “Tom Joad,” Guthrie’s lyrics captured Steinbeck’s book and Henry Fonda’s portrayal of Joad in Ford’s film. At the end of all the book, the film, and the song, Tom Joad makes an impassioned speech to his mother.  And Guthrie included that key scene in his lyrics.

    Wherever little children are hungry and cry,
    Wherever people ain’t free.
    Wherever men are fightin’ for their rights,
    That’s where I’m a-gonna be, Ma.
    That’s where I’m a-gonna be.”

    How “Tom Joad” Inspired Others

    While several sources influenced Guthrie, he of course influenced others. In particular, “Tom Joad” influenced Bruce Springsteen making an album about troubled men and women.

    Consistent with recent Springsteen comments that he found “fatalism tempered by a practical idealism” in Guthrie’s works, the title track of Springsteen’s The Ghost of Tom Joad (1995) follows Guthrie’s song in capturing Joad’s conversation with his mom.

    Now Tom said “Mom, wherever there’s a cop beatin’ a guy,
    Wherever a hungry newborn baby cries,
    Where there’s a fight against the blood and hatred in the air,
    Look for me mom I’ll be there;
    Wherever there’s somebody fightin’ for a place to stand,
    Or a decent job or a helpin’ hand,
    Wherever somebody’s strugglin’ to be free,
    Look in their eyes Mom you’ll see me.”

    It is somewhat amazing that one conversation from Steinbeck’s book has resonated so much for other artists.  But the words are timeless.

    As long as there are economic inequalities, the words about fighting for the common people will resonate in society.  Steinbeck’s version passed on to John Ford who then connected to Woody Guthrie who then connected to Bruce Springsteen.  And the line will continue.

    Already, Springsteen has passed the Joad mantle onto Tom Morello, who performed a Guthrie song during a May Day protest, and his band Rage Against the Machine.

    We do not know who will take it next.  But as long as somebody’s strugglin’ to be free, Joad’s words will be there.

    Rage Against the Machine’s version of the Bruce Springsteen song sounds a long way from Woody Guthrie’s guitar. But I suspect that if Woody were around today and heard the song’s critique of society’s treatment of the poor, he would be on stage with them. “That’s where I’m a-gonna be.”

    {Woody at 100 is our continuing series celebrating the 100th Anniversary of the birth of Woody Guthrie in 1912. Check out our other posts on Guthrie too. }

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    Woody Guthrie’s “So Long It’s Been Good to Know You”

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    Folksinger and songwriter Woody Guthrie was born on July 14, 1912 in Okfuskee County, Oklahoma. In honor of his birthday, Chimesfreedom will consider some of the songs and life events of this man who looms large in both the American songbook and in our concepts of a period of American history.

    Guthrie is a part of our past, but also our present and future, as his spirit lives on in many musicians, including the young disciple he met before he died, Bob Dylan. Guthrie’s songs reflect both the American spirit and the American struggles of his time, so it seems appropriate that we celebrate his life this year as the world has been struggling through economic hard times. But he is always relevant, as a large number of people suffer even when times are “good.”

    “So Long It’s Been Good to Know You”

    We start with one of Guthrie’s earliest songs, “So Long It’s Been Good to Know You.” According to Woody Guthrie: A Life, by Joe Klein, Guthrie wrote the song not long after dust storms hit Guthrie’s home in Pampa, Texas in spring 1935 (“In a month called April, a county called Gray”).

    Out of the experience, Guthrie, who recently became a father, wrote the song.  Originally, he called the song “Dusty Old Dust” and would sing in the local saloons.

    Rob Tepper does this video of “So Long It’s Been Good to Know You” using his best Woody Guthrie imitation showing what a Woody Guthrie video might look like had they had videos back in Guthrie’s days. Tepper is a talented actor who does a one-man show portraying Woody Guthrie, and he appeared in the short film Been Good To Know Yuh – a Woody Guthrie Story. Check out his video of the song.

    Inspirations for the Song

    Guthrie took the melody for “Dusty Old Dust” from Carson Robison’s “Ballad of Billy the Kid.” But the chorus was Guthrie’s original work. Below is Marty Robbins singing “Ballad of Billy the Kid.”

    When Guthrie wrote “So Long It’s Been Good to Know You,” Guthrie was still a young man in his early 20’s yet to do most of his travels.  Despite his youth, his song shows a skill in using a happy-sounding song to express subtle anger.

    Guthrie remembered local townspeople who raised prices to capitalize on the natural disaster.  And he recalled the response of Preacher McKenzie, who “could not read a word of his text,/An’ he folded his specs, an’ he took up collection.”

    Recordings

    Years after Guthrie left Texas and ended up in New York City, he recorded the song for an album, Dust Bowl Ballads.

    Later, Guthrie wrote another version of the song specifically about World War II. This other version included the lyrics, “So it won’t be long till the fascists are gone/ And all of their likes are finished and done.” Here is Guthrie singing the WWII version of the song.

    As is the case with many of Guthrie’s songs, “So Long” seems like a tune I have known since birth.  So I cannot remember when I first heard it. It just always was there.

    Like many people, my introduction to “So Long” probably came through the Weavers, who polished up the song with some harmonies. The group, including Pete Seeger, also performed the song in a B-movie musical, Disc Jockey (1951).

    So long, but only for now.

    What’s your favorite version of “So Long”? Leave your two cents in the comments.

    [Correction: An earlier version of this post incorrectly stated that Rob Tepper is the same Robert Tepper who sang the theme song from Rocky IV. Thanks to Julian Tepper for the correction.]

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    Pop Culture Roundup for Late October 2011

    Below are links to some of the latest pop culture stories you might have missed. . .

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    Literature

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    Movies

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    The Princess Bride cast reunited for a recent photo shoot.

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    Betty White is now a Cougar.

    Television

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    Survivor’s Rupert Boneham is running for governor of Indiana.

    Music

    U2 revisits Achtung Baby while pondering the band’s future.

    Listen to Tom Waits’s new album, Bad as Me on the NPR website.

    “I love to be in a barbershop where I know I don’t have to get a haircut.” — Tom Waits in interview about new CD.

    The Flaming Lips will pay tribute to Steve Jobs by playing “Revolution” by the Beatles at the O Music Awards.

    One writer gave a nice appreciation of Extreme’s “More Than Words” . . . with words. (from Popdose)

    If you are a fan of Harry Smith’s Anthology of American Folk Music, you should check out this person’s blog.

    Folk-singer Pete Seeger enters his ninth decade as an activist.

    The iPod turns 10 this month. How has it changed music?


    What are your favorite pop culture stories this month? Leave your two cents in the comments section.

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    Goodnight Irene

    Lead Belly Goodnight Irene As Chimesfreedom prepares for Hurricane Irene in New York, we wish others in the hurricane’s path to be safe in weathering the storm. Hopefully, we soon will be wishing Irene goodnight, as in the great song. Unlike the hurricane, “Goodnight Irene” is timeless, so that nobody knows where the song originated. Huddie Ledbetter, i.e., Lead Belly, made the first recording of the song while he was in the Louisiana State Penitentiary. His recording is a beautiful, haunting version of the song about the deep sadness of lost love, as the singer tries to warn others to avoid his fate (“Stay home with your wife and family / And stay by the fireside bright”).

    Goodnight Irene, Lead Belly

    Pete Seeger’s The Weavers helped make the song a national hit in 1950.  And there have been numerous covers through the years, including interesting upbeat versions by Fats Domino and by Brian Wilson (the latter is on the tribute CD, Folkways: A Vision Shared (1988)).

    In the version below, Pete Seeger sings with the great Mississippi John Hurt, who tells a story about getting his first guitar. Then, the group, which includes folk-singer Hedy West (“500 Miles“) and banjo player Paul Cadwell, breaks into playing “Goodnight Irene.”

    The above performance appeared on Rainbow Quest, a show Pete Seeger started on a local UHF New York television station in the 1960s. At the time, many television stations feared featuring Seeger, who had been blacklisted because he asserted his First Amendment rights before the House Un-American Activities Committee. Fortunately, through YouTube, many more people get the opportunity to see some great performances hidden away at the time. Seeger, who now is a respected sage from a different time, has always been a bit of a hurricane himself.

    What is your favorite version of “Goodnight Irene”? Leave a comment. In times of natural disasters, it is always a good reminder to help others by donating to organizations like the Red Cross.

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